If Obama can't stop people like Prince from abusing drugs and obtaining illegal prescriptions, how's he supposed to ban birthdays and Christmas?
Pete Zahut
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Prince wanted Obama to ban birthdays and Christmas, according to his buddy Van Jones
by OnTheWayOut ini saw this news scrolling at the bottom of the television screen this morning.
i looked it up.
not much of a story, but it certainly has the ring of truth to it.
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Pete Zahut
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JW Apprentice in Hair Salon.
by Disassociated Lady 2 inmy hairdresser warned me that he had taken on a jw apprentice and asked me what i thought.
she attends the kh that disfellowhipped me.
i told him that i would have to be careful about what i said concerning my personal life as she would report back anything she heard to the elders.
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Pete Zahut
If that JW apprentice is smart she'll keep her mouth shut and won't create any waves (unless she's giving someone a perm of course)
At the old Hall I used to attend, there was a brother who was a Barber and he used to "witness" to his customers and warn them about Armageddon etc. He eventually got fired because one time he had a older guy in his chair, who was lathered up for a shave and as he reached for the straight razor he said to the man, "I have a question for you...are you prepared to die?"
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Angry and scared
by BlackWolf ini feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.
all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".
it really makes me sick sometimes.
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Pete Zahut
Pete zahut: I appreciate your advice a lot but the thing is that i have done exactly those things and it only seems to anger my parents even more. Every time they ask I just say that it's my own decision to make when I'm ready, and then my dad just says "well, when will you be ready?".
It's not the end of the world if your parents get angry...people get angry, they disagree about things, its a fact of life. They'll just have to get over it won't they? All parents have to come to terms with the fact that their kids are growing up and it's perfectly normal for them to want to keep their thoughts to themselves once in awhile.
Get comfortable with not feeling as if you have to please everyone all of the time. They are choosing to make a big deal over this. It's not up to you to deal with their feelings if they choose not to accept your answer. You're the kid, your parents well being isn't your responsibility.
As I said before, if you've given your parents a solid answer such as " It's my decision and I'll let you know what my plans are when the time comes" and yet they keep asking or want further information, you should remain respectful and calm but tell them in a lighthearted way with a smile on your face "Oh no...you must have forgotten that we've already talked this over. Ok..once again, I need you to respect the fact that dedicating my life to someone or something is a personal decision and it is between me and Jehovah only. "
Then say no more....just smile and change the subject or go on about your business. If they pursue the subject you could laugh and say in a joking sing song way " I can't hearrrr youuuu....I'm not listeninggg " Don't be to serious and grim with your parents when anything JW related comes up.
Part of the problem here is that as a young person and (somewhat because you are female), you probably don't like the discomfort that comes along with standing up for yourself when you need to, and in order to avoid the discomfort you become overly serious and responsible and revert to being a little girl and give in to their unreasonableness . People (even parents) can become quite pushy when dealing with others who are too willing to please everyone all the time. We sometimes need to let them know where their boundaries are and the better we are at doing this in a light hearted yet firm way, the less conflict we'll have.
Your parents deserve your respect but they are going beyond their "bible based" authority by trying to force you into doing something you don't want to do or aren't ready for. It's perfectly OK to set boundaries on this topic and respectfully remind them that you're not going to budge until you're ready.
This is why you need to talk to someone (a professional) who can advise you on how to deal with this situation and help you figure out what your options are. You'll have the courage of your convictions once you have a plan and have facts to base them on.
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Angry and scared
by BlackWolf ini feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.
all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".
it really makes me sick sometimes.
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Pete Zahut
Hugs Blackwolf....did you ever seek advice from a counselor at the high school nearest you or at your town's local public health center as was recommended in your earlier post? If not I hope you do.
Perhaps by saying "I don't know", you're being too vague with your Mom . Maybe the next time your Mom brings up the subject of your baptism, you could respectfully remind her that getting baptized it a personal decision and you understand why she keeps asking you about it, but you'd like the decision to be made in your own time rather than because you are being pressured into it. Tell her you'll let her know when you've made a decision and until then you'd appreciate it if she'd stop asking you about it.
Mom: The end is so close...when are you getting baptized Blackwolf??
You: Mom...I get why you keep bringing this up but I really need to do this in my own time. Every time you ask me that question it makes me feel that I'd only be doing it because you are forcing me to rather than because I'm ready. I promise I'll let you know when I've reached a decision, until then it would really help if you didn't ask me about it anymore?
If she disagrees or argues, just look her in the eye and respectfully listen and no matter how hard it may be not to comment on what she says, just listen. You've given her an answer, stick to it and make no further comment. Gently change the subject each time she brings it up.
Mom: Have you given baptism any more thought?
You: We talked about this before Mom....so anyway, do you need any help making dinner? I was thinking I'd make a salad.
Mom: I asked you a question.
You: Do we have any fresh lettuce?
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Living with Your Parents Well Into Adulthood the Norm?
by Sorry ini don't want to seem like a jerk.
i know full well economic times are not the greatest.
there's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet.
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Pete Zahut
Depending upon the circumstances, it can work out well for both the parents and the kid for the kids to stay longer at home than expected. We have a garage that we converted into a studio apt for our oldest son and his wife so they could stay there and save for a place of their own rather than making some landlord rich. I put in a mini kitchen, a bathroom and finished it off with some nice touches such as crown molding, track lighting and a french door. They have a nice new home now and so our youngest son has moved in and is doing the same thing. We enjoyed having them and hardly knew they were here most of the time.
Having said that, I think there should be a definite plan in place and a time limit if adult kids plan to stay on in the family home.
There was an elder and his family that attended our hall who had two very heavyset adult daughters that lived at home and Pioneered and were Nannies. One of the daughters used to bring the kids she watched, to the meetings and assemblies. At the last circuit assembly I attended she was once again hauled up on stage at 36 years of age, to talk about having taken a stand in high school by refusing an invitation from a "worldly" boy to go to the Prom.
Speaker: "Mindy...what advice would you give to our young ones who are being tempted to participate in school activities."
Mindy: "Well Brother Smith, I faced these temptations in high School. I was once asked to the senior prom by a worldly boy."
Brother: "How did you handle this situation Mindy?"
Mindy: " He was a nice boy but even so, I told him NO !!! He and the other kids respected me because I let my yes mean yes and my no mean no. "
It was pathetic to think of this young woman having turned down a simple invitation to do something fun 18 years previously and wound up still living in her childhood bedroom, pioneering and taking care of other peoples kids. There were smirks on the faces of the high school girls in front of us. I heard one of them whisper "it's so sad she never got married because she loves kids so much."
Time has a way of flying by and opportunities for personal growth are often missed when one takes the easy route and stays on it for too long.
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The December Broadcast... OMG- what the heck was that?
by Sliced in"of course not- we want to eat from clean dishes!
dishes that have been cleaned thoroughly inside and out.
" we have to be sure the things entering our minds are clean... rejecting exciting fun stuff that features sex.
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Pete Zahut
The dishes may be clean but what's the point if the food served on them is tainted ?
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Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?
by minimus ini bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
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Pete Zahut
Loveunihatexams Yes the JW are some of the nicest people you can meet.
Tell them that you frequent this site daily and plan to continue to do so.....then you'll see how nice they are.
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Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?
by minimus ini bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
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Pete Zahut
Pete the good news is spread door to door just like Jesus did. Not everyone has a TV/internet. Maybe they don't wouldn't know about the website, if you show up to the door some would have been hearing of it for the first time and at least have an opportunity to learn the truth.
Jesus and the apostles preached from door to door because that's the only way they could do it. If the message is so urgent an the end is so near, why not use the technology available today? You use Jesus as a methods as the ultimate example of how the preaching work is to be done yet Jesus and his apostles didn't use cars to go from door to door or a printing press to print the message nor did he utilize a website yet JW's those means so why not spread the news via every means possible such as on television and radio? That way those who are called on at their doors may have questions or they may have had their interest piqued or at least have a clearer idea of what JW's are about rather than rejecting them because of what they've heard from others. The problem with that is, from what I can tell, as the original poster said, JW's today aren't equipped to really explain their own beliefs effectively.
Again, JW's often use the example of a "sinking ship" when they refer to this system of things. If you were on a sinking ship, you'd use a loudspeaker to warn the all of the passengers at once...you wouldn't print up a flyer and knock on each cabin door hoping to find someone there who'd listen to you.
As far as I can tell, spreading the message urgently isn't really their primary objective and thankfully you as well as thousands of others are daring to visit forums like this as you begin to see what's really going on and are struggling to come to terms with the enormity of it all.
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Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?
by minimus ini bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
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Pete Zahut
A Believer 3 hours ago
We still love teaching the truth to whoever will listen. It's been taught in 240 land. So only about 20 more to go. We know though whenever someone doesn't want to hear it, it's not us they are turning down.
In terms of getting the word spread, what would you say has been the hold up all these decades? Television and radio have been available in many parts of the world since the 1950s and with Satellite dishes, even the most remote places have television. Even the Internet has been around for nearly 2 decades.
There's are Starbucks Coffees and McDonalds Hamburger places in even the most remote parts of the world. I have a former JW friend who is an interior space designer for one of these companies and this person travels to the most remotest part of the world to establish their stores and never sees JW's.
Even as far back as the 1980's adn 90's Michael Jackson would release a video and within a day the whole world knew about it yet JW's have been trudging around for a hundred years and most of my highly educated coworkers for example,who live in a high tech west coast US. city, don't know the first thing about JW's. Billions of people have died waiting for JW's to get the message out so that the new system can come about.
It's not that hard to do. Instead of spending millions on building an new luxury compound for themselves in New York, why not spend a fraction of that money on television and radio spots and so that when they arrive at the door, people know what they're talking about? What do you think the problem is? If this was a business, they'd have been bankrupt long ago. The only reason this has survived is because they managed to fleece generation after generation, by selling them a dream and a hoax. Spreading the word efficiently and in an urgent manner has nothing to do with their real mission.
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792 baptized this weekend at one convention
by dropoffyourkeylee inat a 3-day convention in nairobi, kenya this week 12-2-16 through 12-4-16, they had 70,000+ attendance, and there were 792 baptized (i presume the baptism was yesterday).
i was amazed to hear this; i guess now we know where the wt's growth is coming from..
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Pete Zahut
Wait till they actually have to shun a family member or they do something shunworthy themselves....then it's game-on as far as how much they really understand what this western religion is all about .